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Give me that Booty- Pirate Romance
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In this episode of Blush & Bindings, hosts Kacy, Lauren and Lindsey set sail to explore the high seas of love as they discuss historical pirate romances. They chat everything from the allure of the open ocean, lusting after libertines, and charismatic captains to the not so romantic realities of the times, the life, and lack of vitamin C. Test your ship knowledge and listen for throwbacks to their favorite trope to talk about. Book Club covers the highs and lows of life and love on the seas, with Pam Godwin’s Sea of Ruin, and your hosts remark on the double standards female romance authors face when telling stories with harsh truths and dark themes. The salty TBR recs include a range of swashbuckling stories to choose from. So pull the anchor, hoist the sails and get ready to be swept away.
Episode Specific Trigger/Content Warnings: There is discussion around many of the elements in the book including; assault, murder, sexual assault, cheating, death, dubcon, gun violence, infertility, kidnapping, homophobia, misogyny, slavery, stalking, torture, war, and violence.
This episode contains mature themes and explicit content recommended for those who are 18+. Listener discretion is advised.
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Ahoy mateys!. I'm your host Lindsey here with my wonderful co-host, Lauren and Kacy. And this is another episode of Blush and bindings where we're going to navigate the high seas of love. Today we're talking pirate romances where adventure and passion collide on the open ocean.
Commodore KacyPicture this swashbuckling heroes with charming smiles, hidden treasures and epic sea battles, all against the backdrop of a sun soaked horizon. Pirate romances are heady with danger, rebellion, and the allure of love on one's own terms.
Captain LaurenSo go ahead and hoist the sails and grab your compasses as we navigate through what makes pirate romances a captivating treasure in the world of love stories.
Commodore KacyA made
Captain LaurenA ho.
Commodore Kacythink
Not Libertine LindseyAll All I could think. When you were saying it hidden treasures, I was like, oh, it's hidden treasure. All right.
Commodore Kacyinnuendos anyone.
Captain LaurenWell, our, episode is titled Gimme That Booty.
Not Libertine LindseyI know the puns just write themselves.
Commodore Kacyat this point,
Not Libertine LindseyThat's so great.
Captain LaurenI mean, who doesn't love pirates? We grew up on, pirates of the Caribbean. I mean, the by awakening for me, for like Kira Knightley, Orlando Bloom, and Johnny Depp. I didn't know where to I was like, ha, yes,
Commodore KacyIf only they could have been like our book club pick couples,
Not Libertine LindseyYeah.
Commodore KacyThey missed out on
Captain LaurenOof, oof. Yeah.
Commodore Kacylet's,
Captain Laurentease us with it though.
Commodore Kacythey did.
Not Libertine LindseyI do. love though you seen those things going around where it's like, you're either the Pirates of the Caribbean, Orlando Bloom, or the Lord of the Rings Orlander Bloom, and then there's the, like, the people that don't realize that they're the same person.
Commodore KacyI very much realized they're the same person because Legless was a sexual awakening for me when I was like 10. So I was like, oh my God. And then Pirates of the Caribbean came out pretty quickly afterwards
Not Libertine LindseyYeah,
Commodore Kacyoh my God, he's so attractive.
Captain Laurenhot. Go Kitty Perry.
Not Libertine Lindseytime for Orlando Bloom. Oh man.
Commodore KacyI mean, Johnny Depp is pretty great as well, but like Orlando Bloom when he had those long, curly brown locks
Captain Laurentiny, he had like a tiny, little, ponytail. Like a little ponytail.
Commodore Kacylike a swashbuckler, you know,
Not Libertine LindseyLike a libertine.
Commodore Kacya very good libertine, if you get my
Not Libertine LindseyMm-hmm. well now that we've turned up the heat a little bit, what are some of your favorite tropes in pirate romances?
Captain LaurenWell, I feel like we've already covered one. The dashing pirate captain. I mean, it's just like charismatic pirate captain. I mean, he commands a ship, usually he's like kind of naughty and he's rough around the edges. He's got ruggish charm, yet he can command a full crew. So he's got leadership skills, which, you know, great to have.
Commodore KacyHe is literally the bad boy of the 17
Captain LaurenYeah,
Commodore Kacylike,
Not Libertine LindseyOh yeah.
Commodore Kacylike about that?
Captain Laurenirresistible to a tee. Maybe he's a little sweaty. you know, the, he kind of probably tastes a little salty from the sea.
Commodore KacyOr other things. You
Captain LaurenSun soaked. He's probably got a nice tan.
Commodore KacyI would not survive on the open ocean.
Not Libertine LindseyOh God. Not me neither.
Commodore Kacywould be a lobster. I wouldn't be a pirate. I'd be a lobster. they'd hopefully eat me, you know?
Not Libertine LindseyOh, yeah. Yeah. Would they, would they? Kacy it's all Kacy's
Captain LaurenI just picture you on the deck in like a full lobster costume being like, Ooh, do I look tasty to you?
Not Libertine LindseyEat Me, eat me.
Commodore Kacyand the best part is, is I did sailing a lot throughout my, like, teens. I love sailing, so I'm just not meant to be out in the sun though. I'm like fully covered in like long t-shirts
Not Libertine LindseySPF infused T-shirts.
Commodore Kacyyeah, like s pf 100 hat, like no skin exposed.
Captain Laurenyou talk about sailing and the open ocean, and I too love to sail. and I spend a lot of time on the high seas and it's just, you know, last episode we talked about the captivating scenery of the highlands. And I really think the high seas being out on the water, almost fricking rivals that, I mean, if that's your jam, right? Like it's
Commodore KacyYeah.
Captain Laurenthis incredible beauty. the thing I love about being out at sea the most is like the rises and sunsets. They're, nothing beats them, it's just indescribable beauty.
Not Libertine Lindseyis,
Commodore Kacylike everyone is either a really big fan of the ocean or they're not
Captain Laurenscared to death of it.
Not Libertine Lindseyone of them is the younger sister and the other is the older sister.
Commodore Kacywell, for me, like I love the ocean. It is my favorite place to be. I love being out on the ocean. I feel really My sister for her birthday wanted to go whale watching, so we went whale watching and I was out on the bow of the boat as it was like skipping the waves to go out. And I was just the happiest little clam. And my sister's partner was like, how are you doing, Kacy? And I was like, I'm just so happy. So I was screaming. I, I love the ocean if I could be out there all the time, I would. But, unfortunately my job is on land,
Captain LaurenYeah, well there's a freedom and wildness to it. and then, you know, there's Lindsay who is like, hell no.
Not Libertine LindseySo here's the thing is like. I like being on the water. I love lakes. I love rivers. I love being out on my husband's speedboat. in a drift boat, fishing. I love being on the water, but I have to see land or I'm going to lose my shit.
Commodore KacyIs it like the lasso phobia or
Not Libertine LindseyI don't, like the fear of like, open spaces. Is that, what it is? Like?
Commodore Kacythe fear of like deep open spaces is theso phobia
Not Libertine LindseySomething like that. I am just like, Nope, I'm good.
Commodore Kacyyou can't see the
Not Libertine LindseyYeah. Yeah. I don't like that. I mean, you put me in a deep pool and ask me to swim in it, and I am gonna be like, there are sharks in this pool. It's illogical, but my brain is going to 100% assume that there are sharks in this pool, and I'm gonna get out of it as fast as I can.
Commodore KacyI love swimming, no matter where I
Captain LaurenYep.
Not Libertine LindseyYeah.
Commodore KacyI love swimming in the rivers. I love swimming in the ocean Lakes,
Not Libertine LindseyAnd for some reason like swimming in the lake, if I think about it too much, I get a little stressed out swimming in the lake, but I think I just have to see land. I have to know that it's there.
Captain LaurenYeah. That's a very common fear to have because doing what I do, I get that question a lot from people. Aren't you scared when you go out there? Aren't you scared when you can't see land? Because I'm, miles from any land. When I was, out there, earlier this year, I was like, oh, it's been three days since we've seen another boat.
Not Libertine LindseyThat's crazy.
Commodore KacyThat's crazy. But I would love
Captain Laurenyeah, it's fantastic.
Commodore KacyI'm the type of person that I'd be totally fine working on like an oil rig or
Captain LaurenYeah.
Commodore KacyLike, I don't know, like I'd be totally fine doing that.
Not Libertine LindseyYeah.
Commodore KacyIf I ever lost my job, I'd probably sign up for that. cause I just love the ocean so much.
Not Libertine LindseyYeah.
Commodore Kacytake your job, learn and then I get paid to be out
Captain LaurenYeah, just come join me. Uh, but it's, I think it, leads us into another trope we can talk about, with these pirate themed books is that, that escape, you know, whether, it's the escape of a life that you don't want, the escape from a society that does not fit, you escape from an arranged marriage. The sea. I feel like, especially in historical romances, I mean even today, but if we're talking within the context of historical romance, it was seen as an escape from. pos society a life that you didn't want And pirates, you know, they were outlaws um,
Not Libertine Lindseyauthority unless
Captain Laurenagainst.
Commodore Kacythe motorcyclists
Not Libertine Lindseythey're the, they're the sea outlaws.
Captain LaurenYeah.
Commodore Kacythey're
Not Libertine LindseyOutlaws Yeah. On the sea. Except instead of bikes, they have ships
Commodore Kacyboat
Captain LaurenYes.
Not Libertine Lindseyinstead of guns, they have swords. Well,
Captain Laurenand they have their own moral code as well. They run their own society. I mean, sometimes it's, more of a guideline. Right. Uh, but de
Not Libertine Lindseynot align with our own.
Commodore KacyIt's a
Captain Laurenyeah.
Commodore Kacyall of them have different rules,
Captain LaurenBut there's some sort of, code, right? The hero might follow his own moral compass. you know, you, think the protection of the crew, but also two mutiny was a thing. So again, this code was more like a guideline. I mean, one, thing that always comes to mind when I think of Pirates of the Caribbean is parlay. Parlay, you know? Um, but despite being outside of normal society, I think there is definitely a little bit of, a code or a guideline that, they live by,
Not Libertine LindseyI'm gonna bring it up, guys, because it wouldn't be a blush and Bunnings episode if we didn't bring up the Found family.
Captain Laurenright?
Not Libertine Lindseyin a while,
Captain LaurenWe haven't actually brought that
Not Libertine LindseyI mean, the crew functions as a
Captain LaurenMm-hmm.
Not Libertine Lindseyor not those in the family rebel against their leader, you know, with a mutiny. But you have to have, kind of, like we were talking about last episode, there has to be strength from the Laird. There has to be strength from that pirate captain. They need to be, able to take care of entire crew.
Commodore KacyAre they pillaging successfully? I. You know, is the captain making the right decisions to make sure his crew is fed clothed and they're not just starving on a
Captain LaurenYeah. Or are they on this kind of goose chase of a treasure that might not exist?
Commodore KacyRight. And like, is your captain, you know, smart enough to be like, okay, we should try something
Not Libertine LindseyYeah. Yeah.
Commodore KacyYou know?
Not Libertine LindseyI think that brings us into, you know, are we gonna get these love interests? You know, how are they gonna end up this ship or meeting this pirate captain? you can have, yeah, you can have the Lady pirate, which is one of my personal favorites.
Captain LaurenBad ass.
Not Libertine Lindseythere's like, Lauren, you were talking about earlier, the escape from an arranged
Captain LaurenMm-hmm.
Not Libertine Lindseya noble woman flees an arranged marriage. so you've got this noble lady and the, dashing pirate
Captain Laurenyes.
Not Libertine Lindseyintroduce her to all sorts of derelict things. and that's kind of a forbidden love
Captain LaurenMm-hmm.
Not Libertine Lindseywould say that trope is, definitely in there.
Commodore KacyYou can do a disguised one
Captain LaurenYeah.
Commodore Kacythat for sure happens a lot where a woman dresses as a man to get onto a ship
Not Libertine LindseyMm-hmm.
Commodore Kacythey couldn't get on a ship unless they had a chaperone. And so they disguise themselves as like a cabin boy or something of the lot traveling to let's save a new
Captain LaurenYeah.
Not Libertine LindseyYes.
Captain Laurenyou had a super superstitious crew that didn't want a woman on board.
Not Libertine LindseyMm-hmm.
Captain Laurenin the crew. Yeah, apparently.
Commodore KacyApparently never had a problem on a boat
Captain LaurenYeah.
Not Libertine LindseyAnd then there's the captured by pirates. You know, they're either willingly fleeing or they've been taken hostage. And the captive and captor end up sparking,
Captain LaurenI love that trope. The captor captive trope.
Not Libertine LindseyYeah.
Captain Lauren'cause they don't want to, they don't wanna like them, but against their better judgment, they're like, oh
Commodore Kacyoh wait, you're really not that bad. You're just providing for
Captain Laurenyeah.
Not Libertine LindseyYeah.
Commodore Kacyand you're taking over slave ships and you're burning them after rescuing all these like, you're great. do
Captain Laurenthink, the high seas. I mean, I, being on a boat is not very, glamorous unless you're on like a, a beautiful cruise trip or a yacht.
Commodore KacyYeah. Where you have lots of resources and
Captain Laurenof resources. Um, but the harsh reality is though the sea is beautiful, it is wild and it is unpredictable and living conditions are not great. Yeah, I've been in, 20, 22 plus foot seas on a smaller boat, and that's scary as hell.
Commodore KacyYeah,
Captain Laurenyou know, you get in to like week four of a hitch and there's not a vegetable in sight uh,
Commodore Kacyman, it was a thing
Captain Laurenyeah. maybe this noble woman or somebody tries to escape to the sea to live, you know, a life of, piracy and a grand adventure and they have this romantasy ideal of what it would be. then you have the harsh reality of you have to work damn hard on a boat. it's not roses. People smell, you know,
Commodore KacyYep. Especially on
Captain Laurenespecially on Especially in a historical romance.
Not Libertine LindseyMm-hmm.
Commodore Kacydidn't really bathe normally on land very
Captain LaurenNo. And limit the fresh water you have access to. Nobody's really bathing too much. I mean, you got crusty salty dogs on that boat.
Not Libertine LindseyI really thought you were gonna say a different
Captain LaurenOh, no.
Not Libertine Lindseyword.
Captain LaurenSo it's a, it's a crusty, salty dog. That's what we call an old, old pirate.
Not Libertine LindseyYeah.
Captain LaurenOld semen. No. Ew.
Commodore KacyWell,
Captain LaurenCrusty salty dick.
Not Libertine LindseyWell, all old semen, you know, you, you went there.
Captain LaurenOh, semen.
Commodore KacyI was part of the Maritime Commerce Club, which is basically a bunch of companies that have to do with maritime and they always gave out an
Captain LaurenHm
Commodore Kacyaward and it was called The Old Salt, which makes a lot of sense. 'cause if you're out on the ocean, you're just salty all the time 'cause of the
Captain Laurenmm-hmm.
Commodore KacyBut you know, old
Captain LaurenYeah.
Commodore Kacytoo
Captain Laurento say that. Salt best beach waves of my life.
Commodore KacyOh yeah. Your hair, if you have any sort of curl in your
Captain LaurenYeah.
Commodore Kacyyour hair will
Captain LaurenYeah. Um, unless you go too long and then it just starts to matte, add in the wind, not good combination. There's a, there's a sweet spot in there.
Not Libertine Lindseya,
Commodore KacyYeah.
Not Libertine LindseyFine line. Well, I know you guys have been dying to talk about this book, because. took me forever to get this episode started.
Captain LaurenYes.
Not Libertine Lindseylet's get into it.
Captain Laurenyeah, let's get into those, warnings, Kacy. 'cause they're really important for this book.
Not Libertine Lindseywe have a novel worth of content warnings for this book.
Captain LaurenAnd I did wanna say like, I would have placed this firmly in an after dark episode. but it was such a good pick for our Pirates episode that we chose to do, you see of Ruined by Pam Godwin for our Gimme That Booty episode. And it's a fantastic book. But I have actually told a few people to very seriously consider the trigger warning list before starting this. because it is,
Commodore KacyIt's
Captain Laurenit's long. Yeah.
Commodore Kacyand covers. Very important topics. So for our book club, of course, heavy spoilers for everything going forward. But as for content warning, in this book, the long list. and hopefully we didn't miss anything. But it includes assault, attempted murder, attempted rape, rape, blood bondage, cheating, death, dubious consent, emotional abuse, gun violence, homophobia, infertility, kidnapping, misogyny, hostages, murder, physical abuse, sexual abuse, sexual assault, slavery, stalking, torture, war and violence. else?
Captain LaurenNow it's very important to protect your mental health.
Commodore KacyYes.
Captain LaurenIf you choose to move forward with this, this book is, really amazing. It was beautifully written. it wrecked me emotionally. Um, it ruined me.
Commodore Kacylike a recommendation with a
Captain LaurenYes, yes. It is a beautifully written book. Um,
Commodore Kacyepitome of a dark
Captain Laurenyes.
Not Libertine Lindseyand most of these things that are in here are things that would have happened a woman on a pirate ship. Like none of these things are out of the ordinary they don't take you out of the book. They're not in there for the shock factor. They're in there to build your characters, move the plot forward, and they are incredibly appropriate the characters and the time.
Captain LaurenYeah. Going back to that romantasy idealism versus harsh reality theme is this was the harsh reality of life at sea as a female in the 17, 16, hundreds, you know,
Not Libertine Lindsey17 hundreds.
Captain Laurenhundreds,
Not Libertine Lindseythe golden age of piracy. I wrote this down, was 1650 to 1730s.
Captain LaurenYeah,
Not Libertine Lindseygolden age. I
Captain Laurenyeah.
Not Libertine Lindseyoutside, there's
Commodore Kacystill
Not Libertine LindseyYes. Right. when we see the movies and the books and everything about pirates, for the most part, it's in that golden age of piracy.
Captain LaurenYes.
Commodore KacyYeah.
Not Libertine LindseyI know Lauren mentioned the, title, sea of Ruined by Pam Godwin.
Commodore KacyYeah, sea of Ruin is about Bennett Sharp, who is wanted for piracy and is on run from the unfaithful Libertine priest who is hunting her. Despite his unforgivable betrayal, she ends up captured by Ashley Cutler, the pirate hunter, and fights to escape her prison and growing desires standing on opposite sides of the law. They come together to protect her, and the line between enemies and lovers blur,
Captain LaurenWhat did they call her?
Commodore KacyBenedicta is her
Captain LaurenOkay. Okay. I knew Shena nickname in there, but I couldn't remember which it was.
Commodore KacySo she, is Benedicta Sharp, but she goes by Bennett on the seas.
Not Libertine LindseyBenedicta. She uses her mother's name she's on land and I can't remember what that is, Sharp is her father's
Captain LaurenYes.
Not Libertine Lindseycause her father was a pirate and her mother was a noble woman. Uh, the noble woman and pirate. gosh. I mean,
Captain LaurenOh, can we do fun facts about romance First,
Not Libertine LindseyYes.
Commodore KacyYes, Lauren, we can,
Captain Laurenfacts about romance and, and booty.
Commodore KacyI would love to hear some fun
Captain LaurenSo our lovely author, Pam. I actually have so many of her books on my tv BR, you know, she's written some other dark romance books and so I have been.
Not Libertine Lindseycowboy romance.
Captain LaurenDark copy romance. She has a, um, teacher student, music type romance too, which I heard is very dark. Lots of trigger warnings, but incredibly good. So, yes, I've been following her for a while, but I, unfortunately I have yet to read any of her stuff. This was my first, and man, I am gonna be on a Pam Godwin kick for the foreseeable future. she has a foul mouth parrot, which, you know, love you, Pam, but I have a fear of birds. So,
Commodore Kacylove
Captain Laurenbut I feel like that's right up the pirate alley
Not Libertine LindseyYeah.
Captain Laurento have a, a parrot, you know, with a foul mouth. Okay. and before she became an author, she actually worked as a quantitative analyst. We love a woman in stem. and And she loves the unconventional, mainly bourbon, full body tattoos and tragic villains. And what she doesn't love Hmm. Dolls with blinking eyes. Samesies. Mm-hmm.
Commodore KacyValid.
Captain LaurenI mean, why was that a thing? Uh, sleeping, which I do. I love sleeping.
Not Libertine Lindseysleep.
Captain LaurenI like sleeping.
Not Libertine LindseyYeah.
Captain Laurenbut you know what? That probably leaves her more time to write.
Commodore Kacyprobably
Captain LaurenSo Cool. And eating meat. So vegetarian, vegan, maybe?
Not Libertine LindseyYeah, I was vegetarian for 12 years,
Captain LaurenYeah.
Not Libertine Lindseyto you.
Captain LaurenThen you met your husband and he hunts
Commodore Kacyand hunts,
Not Libertine LindseyYeah.
Commodore Kacyis a lot more ethical food source for meat than, you
Captain Laurenfor sure,
Not Libertine LindseyYeah.
Captain Laurenfor sure.
Not Libertine Lindseywas pretty much all I ate when we first started eating meat again. Was more,
Commodore KacyMm-hmm.
Captain Laurengood. I was at Venice and Teriyaki Meatballs.
Not Libertine LindseyOh
Captain LaurenYeah, so good.
Not Libertine LindseyI'm hungry. Shh.
Captain LaurenPam is also a New York Times Wall Street Journal and USA today bestselling author
Not Libertine LindseyYoga girl.
Commodore KacyI totally
Captain LaurenI totally get after reading this. She deserves it, man. That is CFO is a work of art.
Commodore KacyYeah. It was really, really fricking
Not Libertine Lindseyyeah. and pacing. Who wants to go first?
Commodore KacyI will go,
Not Libertine LindseyOkay.
Commodore Kacyreally
Not Libertine LindseyNo, Kacy.
Commodore Kacythis book wasn't exactly what I expected, because I, don't know why, but I didn't think it was a dark romance when I picked it up. I dunno why, it has a, a lot of morally gray people in
Captain LaurenMm-hmm.
Commodore Kacyum, and is very, very much a dark romance. the book, in my opinion, and like with the pacing, was pretty slow in the beginning. But then like when you get to the middle part of the book, it's like a really good pacing and then the end is literally an explosion. Literally
Not Libertine LindseyRight. All the, all the ease.
Commodore Kacya lot of things happened in the last like 150 pages and I couldn't put it down. And I think I read it very, very quickly at the very end. 'cause I was like, oh my God, oh my God, what's going on? but like you mentioned, Lindsay, the book really does cover terrible things that could happen to women, on the high seas. And I think the author did a really good job about being realistic of a female captain and the respect she got from her crew that she earned over a decade of being a captain. But when she's off her boat, the jade, she's like a regular woman in that time, right? So without an escort or in society, women weren't treated very well
Captain LaurenUm,
Commodore Kacyand she is. much not treated well when she is not on her boat with her crew. and with this book, I do think it was needed, but I really struggled reading the sexual assault bits of this book because the author was fairly graphic and, she did not hold back on that. But at the same time I was like, okay, but this is realistically what would've happened to her.
Not Libertine LindseyYeah,
Commodore KacyBennett did get her revenge, which awesome. And Priest and Ashley gave her the opportunity to do so, which was really nice. But really loved both the plot and the pacing of this book.
Not Libertine Lindseyyeah,
Captain LaurenYeah, those scenes were really hard to read.
Not Libertine LindseyMm-hmm.
Captain Laurenand I've heard that about, Pam's book. She writes really, really truthful, but really like harsh reality scenes. And I mean, from the very beginning, I knew this book would fuck me up.
Commodore KacyWell, I mean, they start off with her father dying,
Captain Laurenher mother right after her, and she gets assaulted like all within a couple pages or a couple chapters. And I think at the end of that first part before it jumps in time, I was like, oh my God, am, I'm in for a rollercoaster. Yeah.
Commodore KacyShe really sets the
Captain LaurenI remember sitting in bed reading and I'm like holding my head and I'm like, oh my God. Oh my God.
Commodore KacyMy jaw dropped when her mother fell off the
Captain LaurenYeah.
Not Libertine Lindseyknow.
Commodore KacyI literally was not expecting that to happen, and then it happened and I was like, oh, she's alone. Like she is alone and like she just murdered a guy who tried to assault her. Her dad was just hung, her mom just jumped off a cliff.
Captain Laurenguy did assault her.
Not Libertine LindseyYeah,
Captain Laurenokay. Well, and he beat her.
Not Libertine Lindseyyeah,
Captain LaurenYeah. okay. Hold on before we get too far into it, this book starts out with, she's 14
Not Libertine LindseyI, okay.
Captain Laurenand she's running to this pirate and I'm kind of like, oh God. Oh no.
Not Libertine Lindseywas my,
Captain LaurenOh no. And then she's like, father, and I'm like, oh, thank God.
Not Libertine Lindseyyeah.
Commodore KacyLiterally I was like, oh my God, she's gonna get raped on this beach
Captain LaurenOr, or, or she has a boyfriend who's like much older and a pirate. And I'm like, dude, you're 14. Like, ooh.
Not Libertine Lindseywhat, when she said the only person who's ever truly loved her, I like thought she was this delusional 14-year-old. I was like, oh God, I really hope she's not in like romantasy relationship at 14. Like, I don't know that I'm able to read this. And then it's, yeah, I got that same like, Ugh,
Captain LaurenOh, thank God it's her father.
Not Libertine Lindseythen,
Commodore KacyYeah.
Not Libertine Lindseythen it just like kept, and then it just wrecked me.
Captain LaurenYeah. I had a moment of relief and then I just got hit in the face with everything.
Not Libertine Lindseyit's been a while since I've been truly just like shocked by a book. not that this book, like the things that happen in this book aren't there to shock
Captain LaurenMm-hmm.
Not Libertine Lindseybut like, like you said, like her mother dying and the realization that she did truly love her father,
Captain LaurenYeah.
Not Libertine Lindseyshocked me. I was like,
Captain LaurenOh
Commodore Kacythought her mom hated her
Captain Laurenyeah. Well.
Commodore Kacyhid the truth from her, who her father was, and she figured it out.
Captain LaurenAnd you kind of knew that her father was gonna die. Like they were having such a pleasant day. And she's like, I love you so much. And I was reading that and I'm like, oh, he gonna die. He's gonna get killed.
Commodore KacyI was like, oh, they have such a sweet, like father daughter relationship and he's like, I'll take you out. The jade is yours
Captain Laurenyeah.
Commodore Kacyit.
Captain LaurenThat was for me. That was a hundred percent foreshadowing. He was gonna die in the next chapter.
Not Libertine LindseyYeah.
Commodore Kacythen I was like, oh no, the red coats have him and then all of a sudden he's hung. And I'm like,
Not Libertine LindseyAnd like it's her fault. Like
Captain LaurenOh yeah. It's her fault.
Not Libertine Lindseythe gut.
Commodore Kacyled,
Not Libertine LindseyYeah.
Commodore Kacythe red coats to him and like, could you imagine the guilt she
Not Libertine LindseyUgh.
Commodore Kacya preteen
Not Libertine LindseyUgh.
Commodore Kacyhaving that happen and like you've been sneaking off to see your father all these years and then the one time. You go to see him, you lead the red coats to him and he
Captain LaurenYeah. So as far as pacing for me, that first few chapters is a very bold way to start a book because you shove a lot in there and you shove a lot of bad stuff. And for me, it sucked me in and I'm like, it's gotta get better. I must know if it gets better. I wanted to see what happened next. I wanted her redemption, I wanted her arc. I wanna see her as a badass lady captain, because she's gotta be, if she's not, I'm gonna be pissed.
Commodore Kacyseemed to be a really sassy preteen.
Not Libertine LindseyYeah.
Commodore KacyAnd that she was really
Captain LaurenYeah. she had that potential and I think, I'm glad that Pam didn't like draw out her trying to like, fight for her authority on the boat. They, skipped ahead and I didn't have to wait. She got it. And I think that's what kept me in it, because I was just devastated by all the events in the first couple chapters. And I needed a win. I needed something to, keep me on track because if you have too much bad for me as a mood reader, I'm like,
Commodore KacyIt's like,
Captain LaurenI,
Commodore Kacyis so
Captain LaurenI don't, yeah, this is really depressing. And I think for me, plot wise, her character and her sassiness and she was so funny that. It helped kind of offset a lot of the bad shitty stuff that happens to her or just in the book in general. where I laughed at times. I mean, she just said the funniest stuff, you know, the tiny little quips, which I love when characters make the funniest tiny little quips, right? Or like the prick hath risen. Um, or there's one where she's on Ashley's boat, right? She was taken prisoner and they're sleeping in the same bed he keeps getting up every night to masturbate on the back balcony. And she says something like, had he stroked himself to completion every night before he'd met me? Or was this a new habit? Inspired by my charming personality? She kind of had the ego and like sass of, throne of Glass, Selena Ian,
Not Libertine LindseyMm-hmm.
Captain LaurenI like that type of character. She's got ego and she's rightly earned it. Captaining her own vessel and crew at the ripe age. Of what? 21.
Commodore KacyYeah. And she has a reputation.
Captain Laurena reputation. And also she was a redeemable, morally gray character too. I love that. Like saving, the, slaves
Commodore Kacyright,
Captain Laurenslave. Yes.
Commodore Kacyrescued Joba like years ago and he is now a faithful part of her
Captain LaurenMm-hmm.
Commodore Kacyand things like that. And that they specifically go after slave
Captain LaurenYeah. And they hunt down the slave traders and burn their ships and try and rescue any, the slaves on board. Right? And so I love a good. Morally great character with redeeming qualities.
Not Libertine LindseyYeah,
Commodore KacyYes.
Not Libertine LindseyI would say agree with you guys on, the plot and pacing, that first part went really fast. What I struggled with, and this is probably just a personal little preference, but when you know she's at that point where she's, On the island and to, you know, pay homage to her mentor, because he's dead.
Captain LaurenMm-hmm.
Commodore KacyYeah.
Not Libertine Lindseyshe Sees Priest and all that engagement, that kind of drug on for me a little bit. And even that initial part when she's on Ashley's boat, I feel like there was so much oh, he's so fucking pretty. so fucking
Captain LaurenYeah.
Commodore KacyI was like,
Captain LaurenYeah.
Not Libertine LindseyYeah.
Commodore Kacyof slow for me.
Not Libertine LindseyYeah.
Commodore Kacythe first like prequel to the book
Not Libertine LindseyMm-hmm.
Commodore Kacyreally quick
Not Libertine LindseyYeah.
Commodore KacyBut then once you get to the point where she's
Captain Laurenfor her Compass.
Not Libertine LindseyMm-hmm.
Commodore Kacyyeah, looking for her
Captain LaurenYeah.
Commodore Kacythat sort of stuff, that part of the book definitely dragged
Not Libertine LindseyAnd I, I think there was some extra just pros in there that to me felt repetitive and a little bit unnecessary. Like, we got it. He's got broad shoulders, a huge dick, and the eyes and the hair.
Commodore Kacya big
Not Libertine LindseyYeah.
Captain Laurenwe understand. He's pretty.
Not Libertine LindseyYes, I get that he's pretty, and she just waxed poetic about it, continuously in her internal monologue and some people really like that. And I just, whatever Headspace I was in, I was like, okay, what shit am I in for right now? this book is brutal. that kind of drug on for me a little bit. Then of course, as soon as she's abducted subsequently raped and
Captain LaurenOh, when she's taken on to the command, the,
Not Libertine LindseyAbducted from
Captain Laurenyeah.
Not Libertine Lindseyabducted many a times in this book, um, and kidnapped, but when she's taken from Ashley's ship,
Captain LaurenMm-hmm.
Not Libertine Lindseyum, onto the other ship with the admiral or
Commodore KacyI think it's
Captain LaurenYeah. And the, uh,
Not Libertine Lindseyreading.
Captain LaurenYeah. That, that was fucked up.
Commodore Kacywhole portion of the book, I was like, the moment he was like, well, I can take Bennett and put her on my ship while you're searching for priest. I was like. Oh no.
Captain LaurenWe all knew it was gonna happen.
Commodore Kacywe all knew it was gonna happen, but you're kind of like, oh, well he's an admiral. So maybe he's more of upstanding gentleman, right. the slave women, the pregnant women,
Not Libertine Lindseyeverything that happens.
Commodore Kacybarrel
Not Libertine LindseyYeah.
Captain Laurenwas, that was very, very hard to read.
Commodore KacyAnd then she talks about how she's assaulted continually for two weeks by the same person over and over and over again. And they don't tell you who it
Captain LaurenNo, could, I could have done I could have done without that. definitely could have done without that.
Commodore Kacywhy the author put that in there because in reality that's probably what would've
Captain LaurenYeah.
Not Libertine Lindseyand Ashley,
Commodore Kacybrutal. It was so brutal.
Not Libertine Lindseyit was a critical turning point for Ashley
Captain Laurenyeah.
Commodore KacyYeah.
Not Libertine Lindseythat was something that he needed. I, struggled with, some of the ways that Ashley treated her on his ship. especially like
Captain Laurenhe was fucking mean to her.
Not Libertine Lindseyyeah,
Captain LaurenAnd I get it, they're enemies to lovers, because I've read some dark romances where the guy's an asshole, and you're like, well, he's almost a little bit too mean. Like the bully romances. It had a little bit of an air of a bully romance or you
Commodore Kacybut luckily his meanness doesn't last
Captain Laurenyeah.
Commodore Kacyyou know, the moment he said Good girl, I think was the turning point for him where you could tell he liked
Captain LaurenYeah.
Commodore Kacyor whatever, versus just treating her as another body
Captain Laurenhe is working through some shit. I mean,
Commodore Kacya lot of
Captain Laurenhe is mad at himself. He's mad at her because he likes her and that's toxic as fuck. But you know, you get that a lot in certain romance novels where these characters are imperfect.
Commodore Kacylater on you find out why he's struggling
Not Libertine LindseyMm-hmm.
Commodore Kacywith having feelings for her because he had feelings for
Not Libertine LindseyMm-hmm.
Captain Laurenagain.
Commodore Kacyanother pirate. I just have to love
Captain LaurenHe's got a type.
Commodore Kacydefinitely has a type.
Not Libertine LindseyYeah. It really made me realize that this was the first book that I truly read in a romance perspective. I've read a lot of fantasy books that have the war, the violence, the torture, everything but sexual assault, the attempted, sexual assault. I don't even know that I've read a true, dubious consent or anything I realize most of the dark that I've read is like dark comedy.
Captain LaurenYeah,
Not Libertine Lindseylights out,
Captain LaurenI remember telling you like hunting Adeline, that was, that's
Not Libertine LindseyYeah,
Captain Laurendark.
Commodore Kacydark.
Not Libertine Lindseyyeah. I think I like when the darkness is in the characters, but not in the relationship. And I think that is something that I have discovered. It is just my personal preference
Captain LaurenYeah.
Commodore KacyYeah.
Not Libertine LindseyI'm fine with it being done. They can be serial murderers, they can be, you know, villains, horrible people, but when it comes to each other, it's gonna be gooey, gooey, wholesome.
Captain LaurenYeah.
Not Libertine Lindseyif it's kinky, I mean, I read, Emily McIntyre's hooked?
Captain LaurenMm-hmm.
Not Libertine Lindseymean, there's some good, kinky stuff in there, but it's all very, very consensual. And I think that's the line for me.
Captain LaurenYeah.
Commodore KacyYeah.
Captain Laurenit's a scale for dark romance, right? Like, you can get really, really dark.
Not Libertine LindseyMm-hmm.
Captain Laurenand darken like you said, in the characters possibly, or the relationship or in the things that happen, it's all about the mature themes that are addressed in, these books. And you either like it or you don't, or you're like, uh, that wasn't great, but the story was really good. I can get past that. But I think that's where the trigger warnings and the content warnings really come in because you don't want to put your mental health at risk
Not Libertine LindseyMm-hmm. For me it's I'm fine with. The violence and the torture and the kidnapping and all of that. Like when she's tortured on, the other pirate's boat. oh yeah. Like,
Commodore KacyMcNally.
Not Libertine LindseyI'm like, well, that's fine. And I'm like, oh, yeah. 'cause I've read a shit ton of torture in my fantasy books,
Captain LaurenYeah.
Not Libertine Lindseyand I'm like, that was fine. I'm used to that. But I think the sexual assault for me is just, I think that's, that's my line, so,
Captain Laurenlike, like
Not Libertine Lindseyright.
Commodore Kacyit's one of those things where I was in some ways glad the author put it in
Not Libertine LindseyYeah.
Commodore Kacybecause it is realistic. But I was like, uh, as
Captain LaurenUm,
Commodore Kacyit, 'cause it's hard as a woman to read those things because you know that that happened happens today,
Captain Laurenyeah.
Commodore Kacyand it's
Captain LaurenWell, you know, people that even today
Not Libertine LindseyWell,
Captain Laurenand it was a plot point. it drove Ashley. Yeah. It wasn't just unnecessary. It drove Ashley to turn against the admiral
Not Libertine LindseyMm-hmm.
Commodore Kacythe Royal Navy, everything. Yeah.
Captain Laurenit was his life's Cause it, flipped that switch in him and he
Commodore Kacythat admiral space
Captain Laurenthen
Commodore Kacypoint it was
Captain LaurenYeah.
Commodore Kacyand I'm like, go you. Because I thought it was priest at first that had gotten onto the ship, not Ashley.
Captain LaurenOh yeah. I wasn't sure who was gonna rescue her.
Commodore Kacyknow
Not Libertine Lindseyyeah.
Commodore Kacybecause she's tied to this barrel the entire time. She just hears people
Not Libertine LindseyYeah.
Commodore Kacyand in really excruciating squishing sounds,
Captain LaurenYeah. That was a very descriptive scene.
Not Libertine LindseyI know.
Commodore Kacyyou're like, uh, but you're also like, yeah,
Captain LaurenFucking kill him.
Commodore Kacyyou
Captain LaurenYeah.
Not Libertine Lindseywas like
Captain LaurenFuck him up.
Not Libertine LindseyYeah.
Commodore Kacyyou find out it's Ashley and you're like, whoa, the Commodore like just murdered the Admiral.
Captain LaurenYeah.
Commodore Kacybut you're also like, fuck you,
Captain LaurenI was so happy for him. I was like, get it.
Not Libertine LindseyWell, there's something that I want to bring up about this, sexual assault and there's a lot of people that throw shade at romance books that do have these darker themes or darker elements, so they're like, you're glorifying it, or whatever.
Captain Laurenit in for a shock factor where it doesn't even need to be or something like that.
Not Libertine LindseyIt's a complete double standard because game of Thrones, George R. Martin, these men can write these horrific acts in their, for shock
Captain LaurenMm-hmm.
Not Libertine Lindseyfor the nothing. I mean, I think about Game of Thrones, there were so many assault scenes and stuff like that
Captain LaurenYeah.
Not Libertine Lindseyno value to the plot.
Captain LaurenYeah,
Commodore KacyLiterally
Not Libertine LindseyAnd men can get away, shows can get away with that if they are written by men as soon as a woman writes it or puts it in there for an actual legitimate reason. and a very important plot point, a character development moment, it's like, oh, you're glorifying it. And I'm just it,
Captain Laurenit's maddening.
Not Libertine Lindseyit's so maddening
Captain LaurenWell, and
Not Libertine Lindseydouble standard. I just
Captain Laurenit's, yeah, I totally agree with you. They'd love to pick apart. Female authors for adding these things you know, they're like, there's no point to that. And I'm like, actually no. There's a well thought out written point to a lot of this. And a lot of the books I've read that has elements of sexual assault in it is the woman comes back and she fucks shit up. And she's able to reclaim her power
Not Libertine LindseyShe finds love
Captain Laurenand she finds love. Yeah. And
Not Libertine Lindseybooks have
Captain Laurenmoves beyond.
Not Libertine Lindseylet's talk about the emotional connection between our characters. Speaking of that, happily ever after I think our main character, Bennett, she loves so fiercely
Commodore KacyMm-hmm.
Not Libertine Lindseythe beginning, she almost is mad at herself for it because she's like, I still love priest despite him cheating on me.
Commodore KacyMm-hmm.
Not Libertine LindseyShe's like, I love him, but I hate him, but I love him and she's struggling so much with that. And then she just falls so deeply in love with Ashley, in spite of the things that happened between them and just her fierceness. I mean, it really shows her character. She doesn't do anything half-hearted. She does everything at 110%. She's so fierce, she's so sassy and in so many different ways. I really, I. Liked in the latter half of the book, the emotional connection that her and Ashley developed the end of the book, I was like, holy fucking moly. I stayed up till 2:00 AM reading this book and I knew I had to get up early,
Captain LaurenI was,
Not Libertine Lindseyit down.
Captain Laurenbeen a while since a book had me staying up late. We said at the beginning of this podcast, we all love our sleep, and it's been a while since I was looked at the clock and I was like, fuck, I messed up.
Commodore KacyBut that's how you know
Captain LaurenYeah.
Commodore Kacylike the
Not Libertine LindseyMm-hmm.
Commodore Kacyyou, time just
Captain LaurenMm-hmm.
Commodore Kacywhen
Not Libertine LindseyYeah.
Commodore Kacyit. And that's exactly what happened in the last 150 pages of the book I read it and all of a sudden it was past my bedtime. And I was like, I'm finishing the book. I'm not, I'm not going to bed without finishing the book. But I have to say I love and Priest's relationship because it's so apparent from the beginning when you first meet Priest. 'cause you're like, wait, who's this pirate? Does he wanna kill her? Like that sort of stuff. And then, he's like, I've missed you, my wife. And I was like, they're married.
Captain LaurenAnd he is such a simp for her. He's just like, I love you. Come back to me.
Not Libertine LindseyI do. Anything.
Commodore KacyYeah. And you can just tell how much, even though she is angry at him and has been harboring this rage of his affair for two years or so, that she does love him. And she says that so many times is she's like, no matter how much I hate him, I still love him, even though he betrayed me.
Not Libertine LindseyWell, and
Captain Laurenis, which is funny. No,
Not Libertine Lindseywith her. He
Captain Laurenhe didn't.
Not Libertine Lindseyloved two people.
Commodore Kacyno, and as Priest said, I loved you both
Captain LaurenYeah.
Commodore Kacytime, and I can't help that I did. And she's like. How could you love someone else at the same she comes full and she's just like, I understand now. I just love their relationship so much. 'cause their banter is so
Not Libertine LindseyMm-hmm.
Commodore Kacyand priests would do anything for she believes in him so fully when she is kidnapped that she's, tells her quartermaster, Hey, go release your half-brother from the build because he will come and get me. You
Not Libertine LindseyYou guys and your ability to just pull out these sailing
Captain LaurenIt is actually the bri,
Commodore KacyI thought they were in the bilge. No, they're in the bilge. Yeah. And they, it's the brick,
Captain Laurenthe.
Commodore Kacyin the bilge.
Captain LaurenThink bilge water. So is the hole of the ship. But they could call it the bilge.
Commodore KacyIt usually is in the deep part of
Captain Laurenyeah, it's on the lower decks for sure.
Not Libertine LindseyThe only thing that I got out of that whole scene and where they're holding him was the orange thing, and all I could think of was the fact that if he's allergic to oranges and he can't have citrus fruit and get vitamin C, then how does he not have scurvy?
Commodore KacyRight. Because they ate oranges and potatoes to not get
Not Libertine LindseyOh, I forgot about
Captain Laurenyeah. had a lot of, of patatas.
Not Libertine Lindseyyeah, so, okay. He's got potatoes.
Captain LaurenYeah, he's good. He's safe. He's healthy.
Not Libertine Lindseyknow I have
Captain LaurenIt is the bilge.
Commodore KacyOkay. I was like, I swear it's
Not Libertine LindseyIt's okay. Bilge bri bananas.
Commodore Kacythe Bri is in the bilge they didn't wanna put people that they were holding hostage in a good quarters. Right. They, they wanted them where
Captain Laurenthe, it was damp, the water built up. Yeah. There was usually like a,
Commodore Kacyyeah, exactly. I'm glad I know my boats.
Captain LaurenYeah.
Commodore KacyI was like, I swear it's the build. I swear.
Not Libertine LindseyI'm stuck on the medical I'm like.
Commodore Kacyit's like fun to talk about a subject I actually know stuff on, because I did sailing for a lot of my life and I was in Sea Scouts. My family's in the Navy, all this fun stuff. So I'm like, ah, yes, starboard. You know, I was a helmsman in Sea Scout, I always drove the boats and
Captain LaurenThat's so cool. I didn't know that about you.
Commodore KacyOh, well,
Captain LaurenThat's so cool.
Not Libertine Lindseyare gonna laugh and have an entire episode just about ships without me. You're like,
Captain LaurenWell, it's so funny. I think Kacy and I, while I was offshore, hopped on, discord and we were chatting and, I was radioing with part of the crew 'cause we were doing ops and I forgot that I hadn't muted myself. we were doing like a pre dive debrief so it was, it was a very technical conversation and I just hear Kacy go, that was really cool.
Commodore KacyI love listening to people who know their job talking in their job. It's always so intriguing to me. I was just like, wow.
Not Libertine LindseyThe entire time that I was reading this book, and anytime they mentioned something about a ship, I had to resist the urge to text Lauren and be like, is this a real part of a ship? What part of the ship is this? I wanted to use you as my ship Google. And was like, would they actually do this? I don't, I, I can't picture
Captain LaurenIt was incredibly accurate. And it was really fun to read knowing the terms because Pam did a,
Not Libertine Lindseyup every
Captain Laurenno, Pam did a fantastic job. I felt like I was, right there on the high seas with them.
Commodore Kacyokay, so back on to, you know, Bennett's relationship with her men. loved her relationship with Ashley. It was rough in the beginning, but I also was trying to be like, he is her captor and you don't find out until later that he loved her at first sight, basically. And that he, was like, I couldn't do certain things because people would know I was compromised right away. I had to put you in with the other pirates for a short period of time I just have to say that I was so god damn excited when I found out that her boyfriends are
Captain LaurenHer boyfriend are B
Not Libertine LindseyOh my
Captain Laurenfriends. At what point, Kacy, because Lindsay and I had this conversation, we finished the book, way before you did,
Commodore KacyYeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Captain LaurenI asked Lindsay when I finished it, at what point did you suspect that priest and Ashley were lovers? Because for me it was when everybody started saying they hadn't had sex in two years. I was like, oh, that's convenient. And it put in my head, okay. Priest hadn't had sex in two years and he hadn't had sex in two years. I bet they were booking, I bet they were together.
Commodore Kacyso I slightly thought when they were on the island and Priest had to basically pretend to sexually assault
Captain LaurenMm-hmm.
Not Libertine LindseyWith the oranges.
Captain Laurenthe oranges. That man will do anything, anything for her.
Commodore Kacythe fact that he told Ashley like we did with Arabella, you know, and I was like, so they know each other.
Not Libertine LindseyI thought that, priest did his sister for a minute.
Commodore Kacythat too. well, at
Captain LaurenI,
Commodore KacyI didn't realize Arabella was the sister, and then I was like, oh wait, Arabella is his sister. So it wasn't like they had a thing with Arabella. It was priest had a thing with Arabella. But then it was definitely when she had recovered her hearing and she hears them yelling and she discovers them wrestling and they have
Captain LaurenA wrestling
Commodore Kacyand I immediately put down my book and I was like, ah.
Not Libertine Lindseywell we were literally talking the other day, was it right before, right after we recorded our episode? you were like, I only have 150 pages left and
Captain LaurenI looked at each other. And we're just like, don't say anything.
Not Libertine Lindseyjust like,
Captain LaurenDon't make a facial expression.
Not Libertine Lindseyit.
Captain LaurenYou can't ruin it.
Not Libertine Lindseyhave to discover it on your own.
Commodore KacyI had an inkling, but I was trying to figure out how this was gonna end happily,
Captain LaurenMm-hmm.
Commodore Kacyright? And I was like, well, there's Ashley and they're priest and they're on, different sides of the law. What the fuck are they going to do? Is she gonna live in England for half the year and on the seas the other half of the year, are they gonna have some sort of agreement? No, it became 10 times better and they're a throuple. And I was like, this is the best boyfriends or boyfriends That's like, huh? I was literally giddy.
Not Libertine LindseyIt was so good.
Commodore Kacyis so good. And then, Can we skip into the
Not Libertine LindseyOh, let's just skip another
Captain LaurenYes. But I just wanted to say, I feel like for most of the Romance book community. Your main character. Love, interest can be a killer, can be super morally gray, but if they cheat
Not Libertine LindseyIt's
Captain Laurendone,
Not Libertine LindseyYeah.
Captain Laurenover. And so when it, yeah, and in the beginning I was like, man, they're gonna have to do a lot to redeem this character because I can't get past that. I, it's like automatic. that was the only outcome that I would've accepted. That was the only way I would've accepted Priest as the, end all love interest is if he cheated on her with the other love interest. and they were childhood best friends and lovers.
Not Libertine Lindseylike he didn't just step
Captain LaurenNo.
Not Libertine Lindseyhe truly loved if he had just cheated and just
Commodore Kacybeen with
Not Libertine LindseyYeah.
Captain LaurenNo.
Not Libertine Lindseyno
Captain LaurenYeah.
Not Libertine LindseyNuh, not redeemable
Captain LaurenYeah,
Not Libertine Lindseyat all.
Commodore Kacyletter that Ashley leaves priest makes so much more sense when, you know the context
Captain Laurento go back and read it.
Commodore KacyI did. And it's just one of those things of we can't do this anymore. and Ashley explains, they hang people for sodomy,
Not Libertine LindseyMm-hmm.
Commodore KacyI couldn't do that to
Captain LaurenYeah.
Commodore KacyYou know, I can't watch you die. I can't do that. And I'm sparing us both from that fate by, choosing to leave you and. Priest, I remember being so upset when you learn he cheated. 'cause cheating is a big no-no for me it's a big no-no for majority of people. Right. And so I was like, how the fuck are they gonna make me like priest? I was starting to like him because obviously Bennett
Captain LaurenMm-hmm.
Commodore Kacyand like
Captain LaurenAnd he is a good character. He is a fantastic character.
Commodore Kacyand then the fact you find out that they're best friends with each other from childhood and that they didn't start off with Romantasy
Captain LaurenMm-hmm.
Commodore Kacyof happened, which is the best way it can happen. And oh my God, this is so perfect. Her boyfriends are boyfriends and now they can all be together and when they get together. Some of the best spicy scenes I've ever read. Were in that book and they weren't long or anything like
Captain Laurenthat's perfect.
Commodore Kacythem so well that they're really intimate and very sensual, but it's not overdone, it's really easy to do when you have more than just a couple. And they did it so well and I was like, oh my
Captain LaurenYeah. And
Not Libertine Lindseyand it wasn't too much it was there to show their connection and show. In addition to the emotional connection how they worked as a throuple and, the needs that they met, for each of them, it built on that. It wasn't just there to be like, let's fill some holes. Um, you know, sorry.
Captain LaurenWhich you, if you add in an mm component, there's just a whole nother door opens for that.
Not Libertine LindseyYeah. it was very artfully done.
Captain LaurenYeah.
Commodore Kacybecause she even, writes how Bennett was watching Ashley and Priests together,
Captain Laurenthat.
Commodore Kacythey kept inviting her to join and she's like, no, this is just amazing to witness because they clearly loved each
Not Libertine LindseyMm-hmm.
Commodore Kacyso much. And I was uh,
Captain Laurenbefore we move deeper into the spice, I do wanna say one thing about the emotional connection that. Really got me was the way Pam wrote it. Her writing was so beautiful. It was almost like poetry and I, I was just taken aback, like she is an, incredible writer, and the, way she wrote these moments between the characters it made me feel the love and her prose was just. Amazing. I have two quotes I wanted to share that really just stuck with me in the beauty of, her description. One of 'em was we were meaningful together, intricate and unlikely bond formed in the dwelling place of souls. I mean, that is just gorgeous.
Commodore KacyYes.
Captain LaurenAnd then another one is, but with me, he would be a man mortal and made of flesh that hardened with the hunger to sink into my velvety sheath and live there until death And beyond that is like, that's not like, oh, he wants to stick his dick in me. You know? That is beautiful writing.
Not Libertine Lindseynever.
Commodore Kacyis a very beautiful way to
Captain LaurenYeah,
Commodore Kacya stick in me and be there
Captain Laurenit's art. She made true art with this book.
Not Libertine Lindseymm-hmm.
Captain LaurenYeah.
Commodore Kacywrites so well, and I was just Enraptured
Not Libertine LindseyYeah.
Commodore Kacywas just this is so good. I can't put it down. The audio book was amazing sometimes struggle listening to audio books if I've never read the book. I typically listen to an audio book if I've already read the book, so I, can experience it again through almost like a different lens, but this one, no problem. Paid attention. I was just like, oh my
Captain LaurenYeah.
Commodore KacyI need to listen more
Captain LaurenYeah. And the beauty of her words, it made their love feel out of this world feel timeless and, bigger, and more impactful
Not Libertine LindseyYeah.
Captain Laurenof the way she wrote it.
Not Libertine LindseyWell,
Captain LaurenUh,
Not Libertine Lindseyof a beautiful way to say velvety sheath,
Commodore KacyThey did say to the hilt a few
Captain Laurennice.
Commodore Kacyand I was like, it's appropriate for the genre.
Captain Laurenswords and all.
Not Libertine LindseyOh my
Captain LaurenI am glad that they crossed check my box. speaking of swords, the jokes about Ashley's penis size throughout the whole book had me cackling. Uh, she says, no sane woman would willingly stretch her lips around that beast.
Not Libertine LindseyI
Captain LaurenI was laughing so hard, like every time they just made little quips were so funny, so funny.
Not Libertine Lindseywas really good.
Commodore KacyI love that he always, equates his superior breeding in the beau
Not Libertine LindseyOh my God, yes.
Commodore KacyHe's like, ah, yes, I'm part of society and thus why I have this.
Captain LaurenWell, and Priest even makes jokes about it. it's so funny.
Commodore Kacyit's really funny. eventually I was like, all right, Pam, I get it. He has
Captain LaurenHe's got a big dick.
Commodore KacyBut it was really funny.
Captain LaurenWell, and it it, they joked about it oh, his dick was so big. Oh, so big.
Commodore KacyRight.
Captain Laurenin this case they were like making fun of it. Which I think is really funny in a romance book that basically it's oh, big surprise. He's got the biggest dick that you could barely wrap your hands around. Like, what else is new?
Not Libertine Lindseymeta there.
Captain LaurenYeah, it's a little meta. She was like, all right, let's make this funny. Let's like poke fun at the fact that romance book men always got a huge, huge deck.
Not Libertine LindseyCan you e emphasize that word
Captain LaurenDeck
Not Libertine LindseyWell, I meant huge. Huge,
Captain Laurenhuge.
Commodore KacyI do. Like with the spice, in the beginning of the book, you get a lot of tension
Captain LaurenYeah.
Commodore Kacyand priest. Right. You don't actually get any, 'cause she's like, I'm not gonna have sex with you because you betrayed me. Right? Like, fuck you
Captain LaurenMm-hmm.
Commodore Kacyfor fucking someone else. Right? And I was like, valid girl. Valid. but there's so much sexual tension between them. And then you get the actual physical tension with and then you culminate it with everyone having a naked birthday suit dance together.
Not Libertine Lindseycan. don't know why we picked that term, but. Can I just say when he's in the brick bilge, and she
Commodore KacyDrenches herself in
Not Libertine LindseyYes. is basically And like, herself then, I was like, this is the best
Captain Laurenhe's doing something. He doesn't get it. his, hands are starting to rub on his, pant legs. And he's so enthralled with her that he doesn't even notice his hands are swelling and burning
Not Libertine Lindseyyeah,
Captain Laurenbecause he is like, oh yeah,
Commodore KacyOh yeah. My wife is
Captain Laurenso hot. I don't even notice that. My hands are freaking swelling.
Not Libertine Lindseyyeah.
Commodore Kacymuch would that suck to be allergic to orange like that as a pirate? Because
Captain LaurenYeah.
Commodore Kacyof the number one places to get vitamin
Not Libertine LindseyRight.
Commodore Kacyespecially, 'cause they travel to all the tropical places. But That orange allergy came in clutch so many times I feel like in this book, but I love that they used his orange allergy to pretend he had syphilis.
Captain LaurenFantastic. Very smart. Very smart.
Not Libertine LindseyI mean, sucks for him that had to be miserable, but again, shows you the links
Captain LaurenYeah.
Not Libertine Lindseyto go.
Captain LaurenYeah. Such a good guy.
Not Libertine Lindseygood.
Commodore KacyYeah.
Not Libertine LindseyOh man, it was good.
Captain LaurenYeah. I thoroughly enjoyed, the spice of this book, and I enjoyed the edging and the tension. I mean, even with Ashley and, Bennett, you know, it's like they didn't want to, but they couldn't resist and then he kind of got mad about it. And, I loved that. or they kind of like would get interrupted. And I love and hate when I'm like yelling at my book being like, just kiss already.
Commodore KacyYeah. I really like the amount of spicy tension
Captain LaurenMm-hmm.
Commodore Kacythis book. It was so good. And they had a lot of regular
Captain LaurenYeah.
Commodore KacyRight. Which was really nice as well. I like it when an author does the building of the spice as well as spice. And then when she wrapped it up all in the end and they're a throuple and they're back on the jade and they're gonna go and find the treasure finally. Right. I just really like when they're waiting for Ashley to
Not Libertine LindseyOh yeah.
Commodore KacyAnd Priest is fucking her. Right? And then Ashley was like, oh, I didn't wanna interrupt. I've been here for an hour. You know? And and then Ashley is like, well open up. It's my turn. And then he says, well, on deck you're my captain, but in this room I'm your Commodore and captor. And I was like, that perfectly explains a freak in the sheets. But a lady on the streets, you know?
Captain LaurenYeah.
Commodore KacyAnd I was
Not Libertine LindseyOh yeah.
Commodore KacyI love their relationship so much.
Not Libertine Lindseywas so good.
Commodore KacyUgh. I love when boyfriends are boyfriends.
Captain LaurenWell, and they seemed very different types of lovers too. I feel like when you add in more than two people into a relationship sometimes, well, in a book, you know, either they try and make the character so different from each other
Commodore KacyMm-hmm.
Captain Laurenthey're not very complimentary. but these two, they're vastly different in their, personalities, but also their, sexual preferences and styles and how they go about, connecting with each other. And would you say birthday playtime? the birthday suit dancing. Um, I really,
Commodore Kacyfind another word for naked.
Captain LaurenI really like how they complimented each other though, and it seemed like their scenes together, were just really fun.
Not Libertine LindseyYeah.
Captain LaurenUh,
Commodore KacySo
Captain Laurenyeah,
Commodore KacyI was like, oh, I really like this. And I like that it wasn't overdone.
Captain Laurenyeah,
Commodore Kacyis something that can easily happen in basically a reverse
Captain Laurenyeah. It's like, oh, now they're fucking all the time. And that's the plot.
Commodore KacyAnd it was oh, but that wasn't it. She was like, okay, well, they're finally all together, but there's still additional plot
Captain LaurenYes.
Commodore Kacybook. Right. They have to go get the treasure. She has to actually get her revenge against McNally, and I think that was his name, right?
Not Libertine LindseyMcno. That's it.
Captain LaurenYeah, with no beard.
Not Libertine LindseyYeah.
Commodore KacyNo beard no arm.
Captain Laurenknow what, when that
Commodore Kacyno.
Captain Laurenthe book just for a little bit kept going for me, I was like, oh, is it gonna wrap up? Oh no, it's still going. Oh, it's still going?
Commodore Kacythe treasure.
Not Libertine LindseyYeah.
Commodore Kacyand I absolutely, my heart was for
Captain LaurenOh, when her dad's note was ripped, I,
Commodore Kacyshe couldn't hear, he was reading it out
Not Libertine LindseyUhhuh.
Commodore Kacylike, I can't hear it. I can't hear. And then he just rips it
Captain LaurenI started I started sobbing
Commodore Kacydied
Captain Laurenand it's like, are we surprised? I started crying. No, we're not, but.
Commodore Kacybut that's a good reason
Captain LaurenIt got me in the Feels knife to the heart.
Commodore Kacythe author did all this buildup for opening the compass and finally finding her dad's treasure And it was just she finally got it open she has a note from her dad, and then all of a sudden that's gone and she'll never know what it says. I died for her in that moment and I hope he dies a terrible fucking death.
Captain Laurenhe did? Yeah.
Not Libertine LindseyI am that they chopped up other random body pieces and that he was still alive and that she could just destroy him.
Captain LaurenYeah.
Commodore KacyFor two Ashley was like, I think I'm gonna go puke
Not Libertine LindseyMm-hmm.
Captain Laurenyeah.
Commodore Kacywas done.
Captain LaurenI think so. Yeah.
Commodore Kacyhe was a supportive man. but now that it's done, I'm gonna go
Captain LaurenYeah. I'm telling you funny shit in this book. it was a rollercoaster such a rollercoaster of a book with incredibly beautiful writing that it will be one that I think about in the back of my mind for a long time. Yeah.
Commodore Kacyremember this
Not Libertine LindseyYeah.
Commodore Kacyfor sure.
Captain LaurenYeah. And she wrote such a strong female character. I really appreciated her ability to overcome all those obstacles. and there's a quote that says, with every vile life that I took, I felt replete. I was a pirate captain. A rebel queen of the sea, fighting against the conformities of society and the oppressive laws of man.
Commodore KacyYeah,
Captain LaurenAnd I love a book that inspires me even more to be a badass woman,
Commodore KacyYes.
Captain Laurenin today's society where we still have the oppressive laws of man. I am inspired and I'm proud and empowered. so that's another reason that this book will just continue to stay with me.
Commodore KacyYeah, I think the book was very well written, and I would a hundred percent recommend this book to anyone who likes romance. Just with a note of
Captain LaurenYeah.
Commodore KacyBut God, I loved this book.
Not Libertine LindseyYeah,
Commodore KacyI
Captain LaurenYeah.
Not Libertine LindseyI would agree, overall this was outside of my comfort zone and I still very much enjoyed the book. I mean, it's called the Sea of Ruin. there's a quote and I didn't pull it
Captain LaurenIs it love prevailed? Not in the windless calm of life, but in the ruin.
Not Libertine Lindseythis. Yeah. ruins you, it ruins the characters. It pulls It ruins you to build you back up again and it is such a deep connection and a deep love story. These characters go through so much and come out of the other end of it and find each other, and their bonds are that much stronger because of it. So yes, it ruined me. It will ruin you. And if you are willing. To step outside of your comfort zone and your mental health will be okay because of it. I'm glad that we picked this. I think I would've been sad if I had never read this book.
Commodore KacyYeah.
Not Libertine LindseyWell, should we do our TBR recommendations?
Captain LaurenRecommendations.
Commodore KacyWell, this is my first time, but I don't have a recommendation.
Captain LaurenAh, gasp.
Not Libertine Lindseyare we popping your Cherry
Commodore KacyYeah, the first time this whole series. I
Not Libertine Lindseybeen a TBR she doesn't have one.
Commodore KacyI, I have read Pirate romances in the past, but they are definitely old school written in the eighties or nineties It's just one of those ones where I couldn't think of a book that I liked enough that I wanted to recommend
Not Libertine Lindseyfor sure.
Commodore Kacybut while I was researching what I wanted to put on my TBR, found so many books written in the last five to 10 years that I was like, want to read this. wanna read this, I
Not Libertine LindseyAdd to
Commodore Kacyread this.
Not Libertine Lindseystuffed her own TBR.
Commodore KacyI really did. It's full of pirates right now. but all, my TBR is Sea of Roses by Opal Rain. We have talked about opal rain in
Captain LaurenRain.
Not Libertine LindseyMm-hmm.
Commodore Kacyrain.
Captain Laurenwrecked,
Commodore KacyI really like to soul to keep, and I didn't realize that this book. Was her. I was like, why does this author sound familiar? And then you guys were like, oh my God. She wrote a soul to keep. And I was like, oh, oh. That's why
Captain LaurenUm.
Commodore Kacysounded really
Not Libertine Lindseyso good.
Commodore Kacybecause I really like her writing. so Sea of Roses by Opal Rain is the first in a duology, and it is about Captain Alistair Payne, who is a ruthless pirate known for treasure murder and his deadly warship, the Howling
Not Libertine Lindseyname.
Commodore KacyCool. name, right. but when a cunning seductive woman's steals his ship, he vows revenge. Rosetta Silver ignites more than Alistair's rage. She stirs a dangerous desire he can't resist. She's wild like the sea, and he's determined to conquer her. But Rosetta has secrets and Alistair must choose Chase vengeance or risk everything for a woman who might destroy him.
Captain LaurenSmash
Not Libertine Lindseyoh my God,
Commodore KacySmash. Like, that sound so
Captain Laurensounds so good, but also all these names. Okay. One, the Howling Death totes would captain that ship. Rosetta Silver. I mean,
Not Libertine Lindseyit.
Captain Laurenoh, you know what? With all these authors out here, just coming up with the coolest names, why are the most boring ones so popular everybody?
Commodore KacyI don't know. But every single pirate book that I was looking at, they all have great names and I'm like, why? Why do you have such a cool ass
Captain LaurenYeah. Don't hit the baby name books. You know, don't hit the baby name websites. Just read a bunch of pirate books before you have a kid. You will have a plethora of really cool, badass names to choose from.
Not Libertine Lindseyfor sure.
Commodore Kacywhat about you, Lindsay?
Not Libertine Lindseyso I feel like, I know this is a historical episode, but Are things that happen outside of just the historical, and most of my encounters with pirates in books, have been fantasy. So the only one that I have to wreck, and I know this is stepping outside, so for those of you who just want historical, you can just mute me for the next two minutes as I talk about this book. but I'm recommending The Ever King by LJ Andrews. I just recently read this. It's been on my TBR for a super long time, and I finally got to it because I read the Sea of Ruin and I was like, I need more pirates. I wanted fantasy pirates.
Captain Laurenfell back into her old ways.
Not Libertine Lindseyyes, I know. Oh, I couldn't resist.
Captain LaurenIt is right next season, we're gonna just explode the fantasy genre. So
Not Libertine Lindseylong since I had read a fantasy book like two weeks that I was like, I need a fantasy book.
Captain LaurenI need a hit. I need a hit of that magic.
Not Libertine LindseyUm,
Commodore Kacyhave any more fantasy out
Captain LaurenYeah,
Not Libertine LindseySo it's a
Captain LaurenI got the good stuff right here.
Not Libertine LindseyUm, my husband's like, what are you doing in there? And I was like, just smelling my fantasy romance book. That's fine. I think it has the ultimate fantasy pirates, which are so
Captain LaurenOf course.
Not Libertine LindseyEric, yeah. Yeah.
Commodore Kacyand they're on the sea.
Not Libertine LindseyUh, Eric Blooding. another cool name
Captain LaurenOh yeah.
Not Libertine Lindseythe king of the ever kingdom captured by his enemies and held captive as a boy. His crown was stolen by his enemies, so years later, he kidnaps his enemies daughter. Olivia has been drawn to bloods singers since she was just a girl and showed empathy to her enemy. When she is kidnapped she is torn between her growing desire and finding a way home. Oh, it's so good.
Captain Laurenit.
Commodore Kacyon my
Captain LaurenYeah,
Not Libertine LindseyYes.
Captain Laurenreading it and I think I had to put it down for a book club book to read, haven't picked it back up. I know I'm going to,
Commodore KacyThat's how I was with Caught Up by Navea Allen. I had to put that
Captain LaurenI know. I cannot wait.
Not Libertine Lindseyso good. I devoured that in like two days. It was so good. Ugh.
Captain LaurenDid you guys see Butcher and Blackbird is going into production as a movie,
Not Libertine LindseyI did,
Commodore Kacyyet.
Captain Laurenyou have butcher.
Not Libertine Lindseywrong with you?
Commodore KacyI know, It's on My physical TBR shelf. It's on there.
Not Libertine LindseyWell, over this summer. You have no excuses. Did you finish Shield of Sparrows?
Commodore Kacyyeah.
Not Libertine Lindseyit was so good. Right?
Commodore KacySo
Not Libertine LindseySo good. Anyways, we've derailed quickly.
Captain LaurenSpeaking of our never ending TBR Lindsay, throw another one on
Not Libertine LindseyYeah. Okay.
Captain Laurenfor us.
Not Libertine Lindseyfor sure. the one I'm gonna throw on is Kidnapped by the Pirate, by Kira Andrews. It's a mm, age gap enemies to lover's romance. Nathaniel Bainbridge is taking captive by the legendary Pirate Hawk as ransom against Nathaniel's father, who branded him a pirate when he was young with tough Alpha Pirate, too afraid to love, and a plucky virgin captive harboring secret desires. There's passion, danger, and adventure. this sounded so good and I actually was really curious, because, you know, there can be a lot of homophobia in romances and I didn't want that in, a book that I was reading, and I was given. assurances that, there actually isn't a lot of homophobia in the book. it's pretty much just accepted. And someone had said something on Reddit, it was more of a common practice during that time like on land, it was illegal and,
Captain LaurenYou would be hanged. Yeah.
Not Libertine Lindseybe hanged, but as far as the pirates go, there was this practice called, met where two male pirates would enter into a bond that was similar to a marriage or domestic partnership, with elements of both like economic and, sometimes romantasy or sexual connection. But Because of this practice, it was suspected, and there isn't a ton of historical evidence. You know, there's not a lot of writings about what really went on on pirate ships. so a lot of, this is speculation. but there was this practice that was documented and so it is suspected that homosexuality was more widely accepted, on pirate ships, so it was just a random, like little research rabbit hole, that I went down. But I thought it was really interesting and, and I could be pronouncing this word completely wrong, so,
Commodore KacyI love that
Not Libertine LindseyYeah. I thought
Captain LaurenYeah,
Not Libertine Lindseyinteresting.
Commodore Kacylove men, loving
Captain LaurenI do too.
Commodore KacyLovely.
Captain LaurenI would like to talk about one of my TVR recommendations, which is Tides of Captivation by Eden Hopewell. and this is actually a SIC Pirate adventure
Commodore KacyOoh.
Captain Laurenand it is part of the Daughters Under Black Flag series, which that just sounds really cool.
Commodore Kacysounds
Captain LaurenYeah, and it's, about a woman, Isabella Montgomery. it's an arranged marriage book with a daring escape, you know, going back to escaping an arranged marriage and fleeing to the high seas.
Commodore KacyYeah.
Captain LaurenIsabella Montgomery never wanted to be a bride, and on the eve of her wedding, she, becomes a stowaway on a merchant vessel bound for the Caribbean, and she's discovered and forced to return to Virginia. however, the notorious Captain Blackthorn and her fierce female pirate crew attack.
Not Libertine Lindseyoh.
Captain LaurenThe ship she's on and a glimmer of hope rekindles that she might actually escape. And even more shocking, she recognizes one of the pirates as Anne-Marie, a woman who offered her kindness in Port Royal. and she's basically faced with the perilous decision to return to her gilded cage in her arranged marriage, or to embrace a dangerous new world as a pirate. can Isabella find her place among the fierce women pirates, which love that
Not Libertine Lindseymy
Captain Laurenand find a love that defies all odds? Or will she be swallowed by the tides of a world determined to crush her?
Commodore KacyUh, that sounds so good.
Captain LaurenYeah, I'm very excited.
Commodore Kacywomen
Captain LaurenYeah, the book cover too on Amazon, which is actually included on Kindle Unlimited. Right now it's giving major Pirates of the Caribbean vibes,
Commodore KacyOh, hell
Captain Laurenlike if Captain Jack Sparrow and, Will Turner, were both women.
Commodore KacyAh,
Captain LaurenYeah. Like, I'm just, like smashed to both of them. and so, as it's been this theme for this entire historical romance, section, I do not have a book to recommend, but I have one more that will be going on my TBR and it's called The Wind Flower by Laura London, which is actually a pseudonym for a husband and wife, writing team.
Not Libertine LindseyOh fun.
Captain LaurenYeah,
Commodore Kacywind
Captain Laurenthe wind flower.
Not Libertine LindseyLaura London is a pseudonym.
Captain LaurenLaura London is the pseudonym for Tom and Sharon Curtis. Yes. Um, and the premise of the book is, she longed for a pirate's kisses for a golden rogues caress every later breeding, knows no one has a good time on a pirate ship. No one that is, but the Pirates. the main character Mary Wilding is of course kidnapped in error and taken from a ship bound from New York to England and spirited away in a barrel, and swept aboard the infamous black joke. she meets the sensationally, sensual, golden haired capture, Devon, from the storm tossed Atlantic to the language waters of the Gulf Stream. she struggles to escape her prison of her own reckless passions
Not Libertine LindseyThat sounds so good.
Captain Laurenand the bondage of Sweet bull desire. I mean,
Commodore KacyWow.
Captain Laurenthat's straight from good reads. it looks, honestly, the cover looks a little cheesy. It looks a little eighties, but I read some reviews and people really liked this book. And I wanted to switch it up a little bit because There's obviously some fantasy ones. I really wanna read A ship of Bones and Teeth is very popular right now. It's by Corina Hale. very popular on book talk. It's a dark fantasy pirate. little Mermaid retelling. I mean that one's on my list. I think, like Lindsay said, pirates, you can either get historical, you can get fantasy,
Commodore Kacytime
Captain Laurentime travel. Yeah. space. Pirates Treasure Island. Or Treasure
Commodore Kacyplanet,
Captain Laurenyes.
Not Libertine LindseyFirefly. pirates on
Commodore Kacydefinitely, space, alien, pirates,
Captain LaurenHmm.
Commodore Kacydefinitely out there,
Captain LaurenYeah. There's something for everybody.
Not Libertine LindseyYeah, for sure. Okay, that's our episode for today. If you enjoyed this episode and can't wait for more, please like and subscribe and maybe even leave a review. It helps other romance lovers find us Our next episode trades in Sloops for long boats as we look for love in the form of Odin's own of Viking Raiders. Our book club Pick God's Eye is the first in the Nor Women Saga by Susan Fanti, where Shield Maiden and Berserker go head to head on more than one battlefield. Thank you so much for listening and as always.
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